fresh expressions interview

I had a bit of an unusual day today. After staff meeting I was interviewed for a feature that Fresh Expressions are doing this month on fresh expressions and cathedrals. I have been keeping my head down but knew this time would come as there are not many of us involved in such things.

The interview questions for the podcast were quite good and caused me to ask some serious questions of what I am doing. I am also part way through writing an article that goes with the podcast on my experiences of waiting as I do so far.

The whole process has been very helpful in causing me to rethink through not only what I am trying to achieve but who I am and where I get direction and strength from. For the first time in quite a while I did not feel daft when I was not able to answer the ‘where are you going?’ question. I don’t know as I feel that I am quite blindly following God in all this.

As we move forward sometimes I feel I am getting a better idea, and then other days feel I am just as much in the dark over all this as ever I was.

The interview today, however, did remind me how fortunate I am in my role. It’s easy to take all this for granted but being based where I am, with the excellent people around me, with the permission to take time to create is amazing. Whn I think too much about it I am quite bowled over still!

Anyway … I digress … if it sounds ok-ish, when the podcast and article are up I’ll let you know.

The journey starts here

I am excited! Today has been an exciting day. Today we had the first gathering at our house of a group of people that, I hope and pray, will become a new Christian community, or fresh expression of church, or emerging church, or whatever terminology we may wish to use.

Today we met to eat together and to chat together. There were 13 of us in total, which included 6 children, and we chatted about what we felt was important if we were to learn as church and grow in community. Inclusivity was near the top of the list, with the children being able to be included or feel able to opt out out if they wished. Being at a home, rather than building or space, makes this a lot easier.

As we chatted we started to imagine what the community could start to look like, discussion and sharing ideas, people bringing worship activities with them, eating together so we get to know each other as central to what we do. We agreed to try and meet monthly to start with but acknowledge that belonging to the community did not depend on attendance alone.

It was amazing to hear of peoples dreams for what we could be doing. I am totally amazed by the whole experience. I am in awe of how God has brought us all together and the real sense of respect and excitement that was evident in our garden this afternoon.

The journey starts here! …. the really exciting thing is that none of us know where the road is leading. As in the picture, we cannot even see to far along the road as there is a ‘holy mist’ out there that we need to walk into. As we journey together we will learn more and understand more and maybe more things will start to make sense.

As for now …. we just walk forward slowly together.

If this story is all new to you and you want to know the background, you can read more about this at a previous post here.

Awesome day

The Pilgrimage in Coventry was awesome – there is no other way to describe it and big thanks need to go to all the organisers.

It was good catching up with friends as ever but being part of what was happening itself was sheer privilege. The workhops and stuff were secondary for me at this event – the worship was far more central to the day than anything I have ever before experienced at a conference. Again, I have to use the word awesome, and I can’t think when I have ever used that term to describe worship.

It was awesome because it was powerful, using the ancient and reframing it in a way that seemed to make it more accessible for all present. There is a good run down of the day at Mr Gnome’s Blog which is great.

Some highlights (and repeats from Mr Gnome) for me:
– starting the day in front of the font prostrate on the floor led by the Archbishop – over 400 people lying prostrate on the floor of Coventry Cathedral – I don’t know what it looked like but it felt an incredibly powerful way to remind myself of who I am and recognise where I am in relation to God.
– seeing the Archbishop in a Britney/Madonna style head mic presiding at the Eucharist with great visuals on screens and ambient tracks
– observing a group of old nuns who had come to learn, contribute and worship God. Their willingness and openness was beautiful
– The Archbishops address which can be read in full here but I was particularly encouraged by this closing comment:

we need, not just better communication strategies, more lively language or more up to the minute activities, important as these are, but a practice that anchors us in the fleshliness of the Word who became human, in the story of the time he took and takes to bring us home to his Father, in the awareness of our need for each other – and so anchors us in Baptism and Eucharist, where Scripture truly becomes contemporary happening.

– the closing liturgy was amazingly powerful and you could not help but leave the cathedral excited and energised about the possibilities and potential ahead of us. This was a totally new experience for me in more ways than one …

I did have one regret – I decided to go to the day in jeans and t-shirt, leaving the clerical shirt and collar at home. This would have been ok, but two deacons were wanted for the closing liturgy and I was roped in. The vergers were great at finding me an alb … but I can’t help but remember the look of concern on Rowans face as I robed next to him, me in my blue jeans and howies t-shirt! He was, as ever, very gracious and encouraging. A funny story for the grand children! Story aside, being part of something so powerful was a very special time. I still can’t help but see the irony of all this – I’m a pioneer who started training saying I won’t robe, I won’t do this and that – and here I am processing in with the Archbishop and Bishop Steven – God does seem to have an amazing sense of humour!

Sent to Coventry

I’m looking forward to going to the National Pilgrimage in Coventry later today.
The timetable is here and looks to have the right mix of space for reflection and work.

After a busy weekend it will be cool to sit on the train and use the time to reflect on what I have seen over the last 48 hours … may even catch up on some sleep too!

Mixed Economy


Mixed Economy – the new journal of Fresh Expressions can be downloaded here. I haven’t had a chance to read it properly yet – but skimming through it looks good on first impression.

Coventry Pilgrimage

I’ve just booked myself into this pilgrimage at Coventry cathedral which seems good and appropriate for me in my setting at Rochester cathedral.

The program looks really good.

I hope there will be a chance catch up with some friends that might be there as well.

I don’t want to plant a church!

There is a lot of talk in fresh expressions and church generally about church planting. A idea, or a group of people, or whatever are taken from the sending church or churches and planting in a community with the aim of growing church. The idea does not grab me and actually leaves me feeling a little uncomfortable.

I know only a little about planting in an agricultural sense – but the little I do know leads me to think that church planting is not really what is needed. To plant in this sense essentially you need a seed of something already growing, or you need to take a cutting from a plant/tree or graft and plant, nourish, feed and water that seed.

The seed, cutting or whatever will then grow – but it will grow to look exactly like the plant it was taken from. The seed grows as a copy of the seed bearer. An apple seed will look like an apple tree, a carrot seed will produce a carrot plant, tomatoes produce tomatoes and so on and so on. This is good for crop and plant growing but I suggest it is not the only way for churches.

Not all, but many church plants, adopt the practices of their sending church. This is inevitable as the aim is to grow, and growth has to occur to be attractive. I suggest this is not good because it seems to take little account of the environment into which the ‘church seed’ is being planted. The expectation of what it will look like is pre-determined. The expectation that growth will occur is also a criterion for success.

To take a seed and plant it somewhere else will always produce an identical plant from which the seed bearing plant it has come. This is simple genetics. It’s true the seed may grow into a better or worse specimen health-wise depending on the environment into which it is planted – but still the species will be the same. Planting is replication.

I don’t want to plant a church – I want to be involved in birthing a church!

I think there is a difference, particularly if we look to the human birth process – and I thought about this while I looked at my three wonderful children. My three children are great and, like most children born of the same parents, they display similarities but they are incredibly unique in their makeup and actions as well.

In the human birth process, seeds grow and the child that is then born and develops is recognisable as coming from the parents (seed bearers!), and is recognisable as being related to the siblings, but each is a unique creation. That uniqueness comes from the effect on the environment upon them both while they were developing in the womb and since they have been born, it also comes from their reactions to what is around them, it also comes from how the parents have related to them at the time, it also comes from choices they make, relationships they have, things they like and dislike or try or avoid – the variables are massive.

The person created is unique to the relationship and reaction to the particular environmental variables at those particular points in time.

To develop authentic church community I believe we need to think a lot more about the birthing process than the planting process. This will involve us more in the mystery of church by allowing the Holy Spirit to shape rather than us trying to shape, determine and control church ourselves. To birth a church we need to bring the seeds together and then allow God through the Holy Spirit to do the creative work that God does.

What particularly strikes me here is that with birthing there are no guarantees but with planting there are great expectations. Seeds are planted and growth is expected as a sign quite quickly. Many wanting to give birth can tell stories of various attempts, of the need for lots of patience and essentially there is no correct way of ensuring that the birthing process can start – the conditions may all be ‘textbook correct’ but sometimes still nothing happens – and yet other times something does.

There are pointers to church birth in both the New Testament and the early church which both surprised and excited me. Gregory the Great, in his work On the Pastoral Charge, (quoted in Cocksworth & Brown’s Being a Priest Today) used the analogy of ‘mother’ to describe a priest. He speaks of the capacity that mothers have to give birth and to nurture life. Paul refers to being in the ‘pains of childbirth’ in Galatians 4:19 and in 1 Thessalonians again he uses imagery of a mother feeding and caring for her children. This imagery is helpful as I consider the role of ‘priest’ in this setting.

Birthing and caring obviously involve a significant giving of self – involvement in the birthing of a church will be costly and involve significant energy, time and nurture – but the end result is quite a beautiful creation.

walk into dreams


After a couple of YFC meetings this morning I had lunch with a few people and Steve Croft from Fresh Expressions.

It was a great and interesting time as we chatted about how things could be sustained (drawing on experience in particular from Jonny (Grace), Ian (Moot) and Steve (Holy Joes.), what we think church is to us now, and other related questions.

I enjoyed hearing ideas from others which is helping me to process what will be happening in September. It was also encouraging, again, to be in an environment of people that understand the vagueness that there can be when looking at starting something new.

As time draws nearer for me I hear a number of questions along the lines of ‘what are you going to do?’ which I think kind of means ‘what is it going to look like?’ My answer of ‘I really don’t know!’ often draws a raised eyebrow or two.

It’s quite elemental for me to start without a blue print. I can’t see any other way of authentically finding a fresh expression with a group of people than seeking people and starting the process of exploration with them from scratch. Having ideas in my head, or a particular blueprint, stifles this process and I think all I would end up looking for would be people to help me achieve my dreams.

I think as an ordained pioneer minister my role should be quite a lot about working with searching people and journeying together to see our dreams become a reality. Authentic community, faithful ownership, and honest planning can only occur when we generally not only want the ideas and dreams of others but are willing to walk into them with others as well.

always mission?

I am a third of the way into using up unused leave from last year. I have 3 days which I have needed to use by the end of March and so I am taking them now. As Sarah and the children are at school I am using the time to write assignments that need to be handed in during the middle of April.

I have just finished writing my report of my placement at Harvest. My placement there finished a few weeks ago and having the break before writing properly has enabled me to reflect and change the opinions that I originally had. I have found the placement challenging as I have struggled with some things but on gaining a greater understanding of why things happen as they do has helped me to grasp the complexity of the issues surrounding the practice.

My placement here has caused me to ask some serious questions of myself, how I prefer to ‘operate’, what inclusivity actually means and looks like in reality and the cost associated with developing along that whole journey.

One thing in particular that I am continuing to reflect upon is whether there is anything you can do to encourage the growth of authentic community that maintains a missional edge?

It seems to be in my observations that something can start and have quite a missional focus, but as it develops people like what they have, grow accustomed to the feelings of being comfortable and then, if they are not careful, start to get all protective over their inclusive community so that it becomes exclusive. As these protection barriers are built, people retreat behind them, mission then grounds to a halt and before you know it a new exclusive community has developed – and there are already a number of them around! Is there any way that a community can become aware of this gradual shift happening before it becomes irreversible, or is this just inevitable due to our human nature and desire to be safe?

I guess I am asking does a time ever come when mission becomes secondary to other things? Personally I don’t even like that question and my head is already shouting ‘NO!’ in great massive bold letters.

building a new community?

This is a copy of an email I sent out on various networks a few months ago as a response to some encouragement from those praying with me.
It seems the right time now to post this in a more public setting:

I have been challenged over the last few months by two ordained people who have been mentoring me.
These two people have been listening and praying with me for a little while.
Their challenge and question – to start to research a new pioneering community now, and why am I waiting?

While doing this worried me – they have suggested I send out an email such as this and see what happens … so here goes!

I believe there are a few people, and the number will be small, who live, or soon will live, in Medway and share a common vision.
These people long, maybe are even too scared to dream, of church being a place which really connects with people outside, but also with them.
They dream of a church where differences are celebrated and add to the communities flavour.
They are not worried so much about what people believe, but more concerned about how people believe: how they live out faith, how they are Christ-like.
They don’t care so much about worship style, but interested in something that’s authentic and enables them to connect with God where they are emotionally and spiritually.
They really do believe Christianity is a journey, and that we can all exist at different points on the road, or even off it, with no fear of condemnation.
A community where it does not matter how they look, sound or by what they believe.
They want to see a community that loves and has people at its heart rather than a program that must be delivered.
They believe a community should be one that meets throughout the week to enjoy relationship with each other and with God, and is not restricted to any one day or meeting.
They are willing to pay the cost and experience the pain that comes with developing relationships.
They want to see this as a place where people belong because they are connected and on the journey, not a place where they can only belong if they turn up at a particular time, day and place.
They want to see a community that really believes in mission, that not only welcomes in strangers, but expects and allows the community to change due to what that new person brings with them.
They believe church is about participation and engagement of the majority, rather than being consumerist and led by a few specialists.
They are tired of being told the same stuff and want to discover together how to live Christian spirituality in their world!
They long for their experience of church to inform their experience of the world and vice versa.

This journey will be tough.
Not many will want to share it.
But a few will.
I am not looking for something better than we have.
I am looking for something equally valuable.
Something to add to the mixed economy of church.
But I’m putting this out there as I would really love to meet people that share this vision.
In particular…I am praying for 2 or 4 other people who share the vision as a start so that we can pray.

So … if you have something to add to this, please get in touch.

maybe you could pass this to various people who may have an interest?